will roku play flash streams?

Hello guys

i was wondering if roku will play live streams in flash format? i know it doesnt play mms :(..

no it will not and Roku doesnt have any plans to do flv from what they have said here in other posts

roku,

we need flash. most websites out there are using flash. by using flash, it will be easier for more users to add more channels.

^^^ I doubt Roku wants to deal with all the DMCA take downs they’d have if they added flv.

there’s lots of legitimate content providers out there on flash who won’t invest in other technologies just to get the channel on roku since everything is working fine for them currently.

plus the channels have to be approved by roku anyways, so if someone adds wrong content, they can just disapprove that channel.

“bollywood” wrote:

plus the channels have to be approved by roku anyways, so if someone adds wrong content, they can just disapprove that channel.
The private channels that don’t have to go through the approval process is where the problem is.

“bollywood” wrote:
there’s lots of legitimate content providers out there on flash who won’t invest in other technologies just to get the channel on roku since everything is working fine for them currently.

well then they should maybe migrate to h.264 or mp4 as most flash players will play this format as well, i am not 100% on if they can still do everything a .flv can do as far as the control they have but really there is plenty of open source ways to get the correct format correct.

and keep in mind flv really only works with pc’s and hardly any if any mobile devices use it. i have seen some mp4 players on ebay use it, but 90% use mp4

there are a lot of indian news channels that will be willing to join but i doubt they will spend more money on streaming in another format. so if roku would support their current formats, they will happily join as legitimate public channels.

“bollywood” wrote:
there are a lot of indian news channels that will be willing to join but i doubt they will spend more money on streaming in another format. so if roku would support their current formats, they will happily join as legitimate public channels.The format Roku supports for live streaming (HLS) is also the only one that can be used on iOS devices, according to Apple policy. They may be more interested knowing that they can also target iOS by using it, and by not using it they will be locking themselves out of iPad, iPhones, iPod Touches, and quite likely AppleTV whenever it becomes possible to develop for it.
http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/NetworkingInternet/Conceptual/StreamingMediaGuide/Introduction/Introduction.html

To be honest, we get VERY few requests from content owners/publishers/distributors for Flash (I can’t remember the last time lack of Flash support was a showstopper). Anyone that is trying to push their content to the TV or mobile devices is moving towards (or has moved) more compatible encodes and transports, typically either h264 in an MP4 or h264 via HLS. I would not hold out waiting for flash support on Roku. And with OVPs (Brightcove, Ooyala, etc) and services like encoding.com getting existing content into a compatible format is not a major hurdle.

Hi,
I also see many sites like You tube which uses Flash and encode h264 which is played in ROKU.
How do I do that.. Its says flash but runs on Box .So wanted to know how to check such formats and play them as channels?

Please Advice.
George

Youtube also has mp4 versions of the videos. They are the ones that play on the box.

-JT

“renojim” wrote:
Youtube also has mp4 versions of the videos. They are the ones that play on the box.

I saved some flash video the other day from Youtube that was AAC audio and AVC video in an FLV container. Making it roku-able (is that a word?) was just a matter of running it through Avidemux with the codecs set to copy and the container format as mp4. A very fast conversion. You could do the same with the all-powerful ffmpeg.

it would be great if roku would add support for flash streams.

i dont think we have to convert the video using a decoder and then upload to another stream to view in roku.
People have implemented some way to get You tube on their channels.. and even rtsp and rmtp flash streams .. Is it possible??
some where they have some code to convert or strip off the flash encapsulation and get the HLS…
Sorry I am a beginner…

“learner” wrote:
i dont think we have to convert the video using a decoder and then upload to another stream to view in roku.
People have implemented some way to get You tube on their channels.. and even rtsp and rmtp flash streams .. Is it possible??
some where they have some code to convert or strip off the flash encapsulation and get the HLS…
Sorry I am a beginner…

as renojim said, most (if not all) Youtube videos are also on their servers as mp4’s, which Roku can play. The videos aren’t being stripped or anything like that, the channels that use youtube streams are using the mp4 versions

I know that everyone is saying that no you can not play flash feed with the Roku, but I do not believe that it is true of all conditions.

I have been successful with playing flash with the Roku. There are a few step you must do in order for it to work.

ON Thursday I am going to be lunching a new website to provide video tutorials to help show you now to write application with Roku. Also I will include how to get flash to work with the Player. If interested I will create the video to show you how, but you need to email me as I do not check the Roku Forums often. jseigle85@gmail.com

the method that you say you will provide instructions for, will this work on youtube only or will it possibly work on other live channel websites which are streaming in flash?

You can try streamformat = “flv” for a flash container of h.264 encoded video… However, It is not an officially supported container and we have no interest in looking at streams that don’t play.

–Kevin

thanks kevin ,even i had same question and please post the API document with the methods and parameters supported…
I dont see all the parameters and the syntax.. it looks like everything is restricted and there is no proper manual…